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Entanglement is a quantum phenomenon where the properties of two or more particles become interconnected in such a way that one cannot assign a definite state to each individual particle anymore.

Rather, we have to consider all particles at once that share a certain state. The entanglement of the particles ultimately determines the properties of a material.

“Entanglement of many particles is the feature that makes the difference,” emphasizes Christian Kokail, one of the first authors of the paper now published in Nature. “At the same time, however, it is very difficult to determine.”

The researchers led by Peter Zoller at the University of Innsbruck and the Institute of Quantum Optics and Quantum Information (IQOQI) of the Austrian Academy of Sciences (ÖAW) now provide a new approach that can significantly improve the study and understanding of entanglement in quantum materials. In order to describe large quantum systems and extract information from them about the existing entanglement, one would naively need to perform an impossibly large number of measurements.

“We have developed a more efficient description, that allows us to extract entanglement information from the system with drastically fewer measurements,” explains theoretical physicist Rick van Bijnen.

Tags: SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:58

Researchers from Tianjin University in China have proposed a way to turn tiny black holes into batteries and nuclear reactors. They published their calculations in the peer-reviewed journal Physics Review D

In their out-there study, Zhan-Feng Mai and Run-Qiu Yang of the Center for Joint Quantum Studies and Department of Physics describe how it could be possible to extract electric energy from the gravitational energy of a so far hypothetical kind of black hole called a Schwarzschild, or primordial, black hole—one that has mass but no spin or electric charge. 

There are a couple of ways theoretically to get energy out of a black hole, they wrote. For example, particles or waves moving around a spinning black hole can be flung away with more energy than they went in with, under certain conditions. Basically, they’re extracting energy from the black hole's spin. 

Webmaster addition: Don't drop the damned thing or it will eat the Earth!

Tags: SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:57

CRISPR—Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats—is the microbial world’s answer to adaptive immunity. Bacteria don’t generate antibodies when they are invaded by a pathogen and then hold those antibodies in abeyance in case they encounter that same pathogen again, the way we do. Instead, they incorporate some of the pathogen’s DNA into their own genome and link it to an enzyme that can use it to recognize that pathogenic DNA sequence and cut it to pieces if the pathogen ever turns up again.

The enzyme that does the cutting is called Cas, for CRISPR associated. Although the CRISPR-Cas system evolved as a bacterial defense mechanism, it has been harnessed and adapted by researchers as a powerful tool for genetic manipulation in laboratory studies. It also has demonstrated agricultural uses, and the first CRISPR-based therapy was just approved in the UK to treat sickle-cell disease and transfusion-dependent beta-thalassemia.

Now, researchers have developed a new way to search genomes for CRISPR-Cas-like systems. And they’ve found that we may have a lot of additional tools to work with.

Tags: SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:54

“This is in my opinion, the worst thing that’s ever happened to our country in my lifetime in the world, and the government’s role cannot be denied,” — Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on C-19-Vaxx

History is a trickster. It unfolds emergently with uncanny creativity, often blindsiding humanity with the unanticipated consequences and non-linear outcomes of previous unfoldings. So, here we are now in a Second Civil War. Really? “Between whom?” you might ask. Between truth and untruth. Between a sociopathic bureaucratic blob steeped in lies and a citizenry obliged to live and die by the blob’s lies.

Case-in-point: the emergent evolution of US public health agencies, the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, the NIAID and their many fiefdoms, into a gigantic engine of death fueled by incessant and persistent lying. The people running these agencies lied to you about the creation and origin of the novel corona virus, SARS Covid-19. Then they lied about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines created as the sovereign remedy for Covid-19. They also lied about and suppressed actual effective treatments for the disease they invented and loosed on the world and then coerced the whole medical establishment into breaking its Hippocratic oath (first do no harm) to administer vaccines that killed. They lied about these things knowingly. And through the whole three-year episode, US public health has hidden the data about Covid and the vaccines while aggressively lying about it and punishing American citizens who found ways to expose the truth.

Tags: CONSUMER RIGHTS / PRODUCT REPORTS, COVER-UP/ DECEPTIONS/ PROPAGANDA, DICTATORSHIP, POLITICS/ ELECTIONS/ CORRUPTION, SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:53

Today you will get to see the data that nobody wants you to see. FINALLY.

No State or country has ever released record-level public health data on any vaccine.

Privacy is not the reason for this; the data can be easily obfuscated (which we did on this data) so that no record entry would match that of any person, living or dead.

The reason the data is kept secret is simple: it would expose the fact that the COVID vaccines are unsafe, as well as all the vaccines that I have been able to get record-level data on.

Today, thanks to a courageous whistleblower who works at the New Zealand Ministry of Health, we have record-level information from a large population of all ages and are making it public for the first time in history. Buy New $24.99 ($0.10 / Count) (as of 04:57 UTC - Details)

Here is the Rumble video announcing the leak.

There was a YouTube link as well, but YouTube censored it within minutes of posting, just like we knew they would.

Just as you suspected, the COVID vaccines have killed millions of people worldwide, an estimated 1 death per 1,000 doses on average in a standard population.

Tags: CONSUMER RIGHTS / PRODUCT REPORTS, COVER-UP/ DECEPTIONS/ PROPAGANDA, POLITICS/ ELECTIONS/ CORRUPTION, SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:51

Travel was halted across Europe Saturday as heavy snow blanketed cities and freezing temperatures set in following a week of deadly early-season storms.

Flights were grounded in Munich and Dublin Saturday after a winter storm dumped snow across southern Germany and parts of Austria, Switzerland and the Czech Republic, disrupting travel across the continent.

Hundreds of flights in and out of Munich were canceled and not expected to resume until Sunday morning, the airport announced.

Video captured airplanes and the tarmac at Munich Airport blanketed in white as crews worked to clear the wintery mess.

Delays of an hour or more were reported at London, Vienna and Zurich airports, according to tracking service Flightaware.

Tags: CLIMATEGATE, CURRENT EVENTS, SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:50

The United States must expand and modernize its nuclear arsenal beyond planned improvements to deter combined aggression from communist China and Russia, according to a new congressional report.

Planned nuclear capacity “limits” the United States' ability to effectively prevent a war with China and Russia, says the report (pdf) by the Congressional Commission on the Strategic Posture of the United States.

“Given current threat trajectories, our nation will soon encounter a fundamentally different global setting than it has ever experienced: we will face a world where two nations possess nuclear arsenals on par with our own,” the report says.

“The size and composition of the nuclear force must account for the possibility of combined aggression from Russia and China.”

The report emphasizes that a new conflict with either or both of the powers could realistically result in nuclear catastrophe and would need to be deterred.

There is a growing risk of confrontation with China, Russia, or both. This includes the risk of military conflict,” the report says.

Tags: CHINA, RUSSIA/ UKRAINE /BELARUS /CRIMEA, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS, WHITE HOUSE, WMD
Posted on: Dec 03 06:50

The Jerusalem Post removed an article on Saturday that accused another outlet of misrepresenting a doll as a dead Palestinian baby.

After the article was originally published, social media users assailed the Post, arguing that the image did indeed depict a human infant.

The Post issued a statement following the retraction blaming the issue on “faulty sourcing.”

“The article in question did not meet our editorial standards and was thus removed. We take this matter seriously and will be handling it internally in order to prevent similar incidents from reoccurring,” the statement continued. “We regret this incident and remain committed to upholding the highest journalistic standards at all times.”

Tags: CORPORATE MEDIA, COVER-UP/ DECEPTIONS/ PROPAGANDA, ISRAEL, PALESTINE, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:49

American investigative journalist Seymour Hersh made another revealing statement. Referring to an unnamed official in Washington, Seymour Hersh reported that “cease-fire negotiations have begun between Russia and Ukraine.” According to him, the negotiations are being conducted by the chiefs of the General Staffs of the armed forces of Ukraine and Russia – Valery Zaluzhny and Valery Gerasimov. Moreover, Zaluzhny is reportedly negotiating with Russia without the consent of President Zelensky.

According to the investigator, the West has made it clear to Zelensky that if he does not agree to negotiate with Moscow, then someone else will do it. The negotiations are based on the situation on the front. Hersh states that the Russian side stands that Kiev should recognize Crimea and the Russian-controlled territories of Donbass, Zaporizhia and Kherson regions as part of Russia.

In its turn, Kiev could reportedly join NATO with the rest of its territory, but the alliance will take responsibility not to deploy its troops and offensive weapons on Ukrainian territory.

So far, neither Moscow nor Kiev has officially commented on the report.

Tags: RUSSIA/ UKRAINE /BELARUS /CRIMEA, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:46

On December 2, Hezbollah and its allies escalated attacks against the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) from southern Lebanon in support of the Gaza Strip.

Hezbollah fighters targeted the Israeli military sites of Al-Raheb, Ruwaisat al-Alam, Jal al-Alam, al-Marj and al-Matula as well as the headquarters of the IDF’s 91th Division in the Pranit barracks on the Lebanese-Israeli border.

Tags: ISRAEL, LEBANON, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:45

On December 2, the Mossad spy agency said that the Israeli negotiating team that engaged in talks with the Palestinian Hamas Movement in Qatar had been ordered home with talks on extending a ceasefire reaching a “dead end.”

“Due to the dead end in negotiations, and following instructions from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Mossad head David Barnea ordered the negotiating team in Doha to return home,” said a statement from Netanyahu’s office issued on behalf of the agency.

“The Hamas terror group did not fulfill its obligations under the agreement that included releasing all the women and children that were on the list provided to Hamas that had authorized it,” the statement explained.

“The head of Mossad thanks the head of the CIA, Egypt’s intelligence minister, the prime minister of Qatar for their partnership and the tremendous mediation efforts that led to the release of 84 women and children from Gaza, in addition to 24 foreign nationals,” it added.

Tags: ISRAEL, PALESTINE, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:44

Former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko has blamed his successor Vladimir Zelensky for border guards refusing to allow him to leave Ukraine on Friday.

Poroshenko is a member of parliament and leader of the small opposition party European Solidarity. He said he was trying to travel to Poland on official business to champion Kiev’s cause in Warsaw and Washington.

“I have a business trip [order] signed by the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, but the border guards did not let me through,” Poroshenko said on his Telegram channel. “Everyone can guess who canceled the document signed by the Speaker of the Parliament.”

“What happened today at the border is not a minor mischief. This is anti-Ukrainian sabotage” and “a blow to Ukraine's defense capability,” Poroshenko insisted.

Tags: EUROPE, POLITICS/ ELECTIONS/ CORRUPTION, RUSSIA/ UKRAINE /BELARUS /CRIMEA, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:43

The parent company of Facebook and Instagram continues to struggle with its algorithms enabling child molesters on its platforms, the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday. 

Earlier this year, the Journal and researchers at two US universities revealed that Instagram algorithms were helping connect accounts “devoted to the creation, purchasing and trading of underage-sex content.” Meta responded by setting up a child-safety task force and developing software tools to deal with the issue. 

Five months later, the company is “struggling to prevent its own systems from enabling and even promoting a vast network of pedophile accounts,” the Journal noted.

Earlier this week, the Journal cited research by the Canadian Centre for Child Protection, showing that Instagram algorithms still recommended pedophile content. While some pedophilia-related hashtags have been banned, the system just spits out new ones with minor variations, they said.

According to the Canadians, a “network” of Instagram accounts that had up to 10 million followers apiece “has continued to livestream videos of child sex abuse months after it was reported to the company.” Another group, the Stanford Internet Observatory, flagged several groups “popular with Instagram’s child sexualization community” to Meta back in June, and said that some of them are still operating. 

Tags: CORPORATE MEDIA, CURRENT EVENTS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:42

After seven weeks of relentless Israeli bombing throughout Gaza, according to the modest estimates of the UN as of November 23 (right before a humanitarian ceasefire came into effect), more than 14,800 people have been killed in the enclave, including about 6,000 children and 4,000 women.

While these Israeli attacks on Gaza are by far the worst yet, with Israel dropping a reported 40,000 tons of explosives in less than two months, it is worth recalling that Israel has repeatedly waged assaults against the Palestinians of Gaza over the past 15 years.

Living in Gaza for years between late 2008 to March 2013, I was witness to two major Israeli assaults (and countless smaller ones over the years). Here, I will highlight what I saw and documented, to show that the horrific Israeli war crimes we are seeing coming out of Gaza are not new, even if they are exponentially worse this time around.

Tags: ISRAEL, PALESTINE, TORTURE/ WAR CRIMES, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:42

French President Emmanuel Macron has urged Israeli authorities to “more precisely define” the end goals of the war with Hamas, while arguing that the stated aim of totally eliminating the Palestinian militant group may result in a years-long conflict.

Macron’s comments came after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed on Saturday to continue with the ground offensive in Gaza until “all its objections” are achieved, namely rescuing remaining hostages and completely “obliterating Hamas.”

Speaking at a press conference on the sidelines of the UN COP28 climate conference in Dubai, Macron questioned whether “anyone thinks it's possible” to wipe out Hamas.

“If it is the aim, the war will last for 10 years,” he argued.

“There can be no long-term security for Israel in the region, if that security comes at the price of Palestinian lives, affecting the public opinions in the region,” he continued.

Tags: FRANCE, ISRAEL, MIDDLE EAST, PALESTINE, TORTURE/ WAR CRIMES, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:39

If there was every any question that Benjamin Netanyahu has been a bloodthirsty warmonger from day one, a recently circulating video with footage of the Israeli Prime Minister over the decades repeatedly calling for regime change wars, whether with Iran, Iraq or Libya. One clip even shows Netanyahu demanding, and receiving, a standing ovation from the U.S. Congress over his bellicose rhetoric.

Webmaster addition: Guess who Netanyahu wants to per for and fight in all these wars!

Tags: IRAN, IRAQ, ISRAEL, LIBYA, RUSSIA/ UKRAINE /BELARUS /CRIMEA, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:37

The Il-76MD-90AE modification is a major overhaul of the well-proven Il-76MD military transport aircraft. The main designation of the aircraft is to transport and airdrop military and civil bulky cargoes, military equipment, including tanks and personnel. Maximum payload of the aircraft is 60 tons, it is equipped with modern, reliable engines with FADEC-type digital control system. The Il-76MD-90AE fully complies with the current ICAO requirements and can be operated around the world without restrictions.

Tags: RUSSIA/ UKRAINE /BELARUS /CRIMEA, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:35

Russia has started sending the first batches of free grain to struggling African nations under a deal announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin earlier this year. This week, Somalia became the first to receive a shipment of 25,000 tons of grain. 

Tags: AFRICA, RUSSIA/ UKRAINE /BELARUS /CRIMEA
Posted on: Dec 03 06:33

Extreme snowfall and sub-zero temperatures led to chaos in the Bavarian state capital of Munich on Saturday as a winter storm paralyzed air and rail travel, led to road traffic accidents, and forced the cancellation of a Bundesliga football match. 

With much of Germany in the grips of icy temperatures for the past several days, Saturday’s snowfall in Munich was the most intense yet. More than 16 inches (40cm) of snow fell between Friday night and early on Saturday, weather services said, blanketing the Munich metropolitan area, home to around 6 million people. 

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Tags: CLIMATEGATE, GERMANY, SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:32

Britain created Israel to safeguard it’s interests in the Middle East. But as its empire faded another took over, America.

Tags: GREAT BRITAIN/ UK, ISRAEL, MIDDLE EAST, PALESTINE, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS, WHITE HOUSE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:31

If the United States has aided and abetted Israel’s campaign of ethnic cleansing in Gaza, the European Union’s role has been one of quiet complicity.

In a special edition of The Listening Post, we examine the discourse around the conflict in three EU countries: Germany, where shows of support for the Palestinians have been heavily suppressed; France, where television news channels have distorted the debate to suit their own agendas; and the outlier that is Ireland, where there has been probing criticism of Israel’s actions - from politicians and in the media.

Tags: EUROPE, ISRAEL, PALESTINE, TORTURE/ WAR CRIMES, WAR/DRAFT/ VETERAN AFFAIRS, WHITE HOUSE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:30

This week, in testimony before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Federal Government, journalist Michael Shellenberger revealed that "US And UK military contractors worked to both censor and use sophisticated psychological operations and disinformation tactics developed abroad against the American people. The Supreme Court ruled that the government may not induce, encourage, or promote private persons to accomplish what the government is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish. Yet, there was a regular organized stream of communication between the FBI, DHS, and the largest tech companies to flag content in enormous numbers involving spreadsheets of accounts that ran into the hundreds of thousands of pages."

"Now, Jack Smith, the Department of Justice attorney prosecuting Donald Trump for allegedly inciting the January 6 'insurrection' is also targeting everyone who likes or forwards his tweets on social media," Shellenberger added. "The scope, power, and law-breaking of the surveillance and censorship for the purpose of election interference are worse than ever."

Webmaster addition: This surveillance of everyone who reposts or comments or likes or forwards a Trump post is a blatant attempt to intimidate Trump supporters going into the 2024 election season!

Tags: CORPORATE MEDIA, COVER-UP/ DECEPTIONS/ PROPAGANDA, DICTATORSHIP, POLITICS/ ELECTIONS/ CORRUPTION, WHITE HOUSE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:22

The holiday season is here, but software firms are still busy issuing fixes for major security flaws. Microsoft, Google, and enterprise software firm Atlassian have released patches for vulnerabilities already being used in attacks. Cisco also patched a bug deemed so serious, it was given a near-maximum CVSS score of 9.9.

Here’s everything you need to know about the patches released in November.

Tags: COMPUTERS/INTERNET
Posted on: Dec 03 06:15

In a recent development, Brian Laundrie, the prime suspect in the murder of his fiancée Gabby Petito, is alleged to have hired a high-profile defense team in Wyoming over a week before Petito was reported missing.

This information is part of the latest amended complaint filed in the lawsuit by Petito's family against Laundrie's parents and their attorney.

The lawsuit, brought forward by Joseph Petito and Nichole Schmidt, accuses Chris and Roberta Laundrie and their attorney Steve Bertolino of knowing about Petito's death and the location of her remains. The complaint alleges that they gave Petito's parents false hope of her being found alive while trying to protect their son, causing severe emotional distress.

Tags: COVER-UP/ DECEPTIONS/ PROPAGANDA, CURRENT EVENTS
Posted on: Dec 03 06:14

On Friday, House Republicans called for the release of all correspondences between Special Counsel Jack Smith and the Department of Justice (DOJ) under Merrick Garland, concerning the decision to indict former President Donald Trump.

In June, Jack Smith, who has been described as a representative of the Deep State, indicted Trump on 37 federal counts in Miami. The charges against Trump included 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information and six other process crimes, which were linked to his discussions with his attorney.

In August, Smith further charged Trump with three additional counts related to an investigation into classified documents stored at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. The superseding indictment, filed in the Southern District of Florida, alleges that Trump was involved in a scheme to erase security footage from Mar-a-Lago.

Tags: POLITICS/ ELECTIONS/ CORRUPTION
Posted on: Dec 03 06:13

The IRS penalty for underpayment of estimated taxes is up sharply this year, with self-employed and freelance workers at the biggest risk of getting hit.

The penalty, calculated quarterly based on the Federal Reserve's benchmark rate, hit 8 percent on October 1, up from just 3 percent in early 2021, when Fed rates were near zero.

The penalty rate applies to shortfalls in estimated taxes, which self-employed workers pay the IRS quarterly based on their earnings for the period.

Tags: TAXES
Posted on: Dec 03 06:13

If you’ve ever bought an engagement ring, or any other diamond jewelry, you likely know about the “Four Cs”: carat, cut, color, and clarity, which between them determine the quality of a gem. The unofficial fifth C is certification—paperwork from an independent authority validating the qualities and authenticity of a stone. Now, however, a UK startup is aiming to bring yet another C into the mix: code.

Opsydia, a company spun out in 2017 from research conducted at the University of Oxford, is pioneering the laser inscription of near-invisible identifier codes—what it calls “nano-IDs”—inside diamonds.

Each nano-ID consists of a series of submicron-size dots that are imprinted a fifth of a millimeter beneath the gem’s surface, the dots forming a numerical code that’s linked to official certification documents or (increasingly) blockchain ledgers.

Crucially, such an identifier doesn’t come close to registering as the kind of mark that would impact a stone’s quality. Magnification of at least 200X and specifically designed illumination is needed just to spot these subsurface codes. For comparison, specialists in diamond grading laboratories work with between 40X and 80X magnification; a jeweler’s loupe offers considerably less.

Tags: COMPUTERS/INTERNET, SCIENCE/ HEALTH/ CLIMATE/ NATURE
Posted on: Dec 03 06:13

Last week ended the way all weeks have been ending: with the stock market raging higher based on future expectations of rate cuts that (1) have not happened yet (2) probably won’t happen until next year, unless a market crash happens first and (3) won’t make their way through the economy for another 18 to 24 months.

But nonetheless, the S&P is looking to finish the year nearing astronomical 20% gains, something that I would have thought to have been impossible with rates raging higher over the last 2 years. But, then again, remember as I wrote in September — rate cuts are usually the signal for the market to crash — not rate hikes: Fed Rate Cuts Should Scare The Shit Out Of You

Is that something I wish I had understood better heading into the last few years? Absolutely. Have I taken an ass whooping betting on volatility and being mostly net short? Absolutely. Does that mean I’m going to be deadass wrong again in 2024?

Not necessarily.

Tags: ECONOMY
Posted on: Dec 03 06:12

While world leaders spoke at a 'global warming' conference in Dubai, located in the heart of the Arabian Desert, discussing the usual: banning gas stoves, cow farts, and petrol-powered vehicles, a powerful snowstorm grounded all flights at Munich Airport in Germany. 

"Private jets in Munich on the way to Dubai global warming conference are literally frozen on the runway, which has turned into a glacier," said Ryan Maue, a meteorologist and former NOAA chief scientist. 

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Tags: CLIMATEGATE, COVER-UP/ DECEPTIONS/ PROPAGANDA, ECONOMY, POLITICS/ ELECTIONS/ CORRUPTION
Posted on: Dec 03 06:09

Tuam, a quiet town in the west of Ireland. Tuam, a name that traumatised the whole of Ireland in the spring of 2014, when an unimaginable story was revealed. A hidden mass grave containing the remains of some 800 children was discovered on the former grounds of a home for single mothers, a hell on earth where children died from ill treatment, and were shamefully buried in secret and forgotten. Up until the 1990s, dozens of these detention centres were run by religious orders, but the country is still reluctant to confront the ghosts of its past.

Webmaster addition: Long but worth it. Claire actually wrote a song about this incident. It's the third song down on this page from her website.

Tags: GREAT BRITAIN/ UK, HIDDEN HISTORY, RELIGION/ATHEISM
Posted on: Dec 03 06:05